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Stories from the State Bar - Part Three
At the 2025 Mississippi State Bar Convention, former State Supreme Court Justice Dawn Beam interviewed over 20 people in 3 days to bring you a special 7-part series of her Hope Mississippi podcast. This is part three.
What happens when dedicated individuals refuse to accept a broken system? In this powerful episode, we journey across Mississippi to witness extraordinary transformations born from crisis. We explore Mississippi's commitment to its youth, a lawyer/CPA who runs a summer program for kids in an abandoned YMCA building, and a bank's blind acts of faith in humanity after Katrina.
Attorney and Youth Court Judge Renee Porter takes us inside Marion County's remarkable youth court revolution. After three preventable child deaths revealed critical gaps in the system, Porter and her colleagues implemented new protocols that evaluate every child abuse hotline call. The results speak volumes—children in state custody reduced from 350 to just 20 through prevention plans, family reunification, and community partnerships. "It's not a shame to be poor," Porter emphasizes, "but we cannot afford to lose another child when solutions exist."
The inspiration continues with James L. Henley Jr., who transformed an abandoned 27-acre YMCA into Fresh Start Christian Church, now a vibrant youth center serving the inner-city community of Jackson. For 18 years, his programs have provided structure, education, and opportunity to children with nowhere else to go during school breaks. Henley shares touching success stories, including a former participant who, now a Walmart manager, donated hundreds of food items because "they kept me out of trouble when I was young."
Finally, Joy Phillips recounts the extraordinary innovations that emerged during Hurricane Katrina while she served as general counsel for Hancock Whitney Bank. When disaster wiped out infrastructure, the bank established makeshift branches within 48 hours, even literally "laundering" contaminated cash to meet community needs. Their compassionate approach to emergency loans and cash advances resulted in minimal losses and the acquisition of thousands of new customers.
These stories highlight Mississippi's greatest resource: its resilient and creative people, who refuse to surrender to circumstances.
What challenges in your community could be transformed through similar collaboration and determination?
Hope Mississippi's Mission: The sobering reality remains: one in four Mississippi children lives in poverty, and one in five experiences food insecurity. These statistics aren't just numbers—they're our collective challenge. Through these conversations, we discover that Mississippi's transformation occurs through individual commitments to mentor, encourage, and be present for others. The small acts of hope accumulate into the broader "miracles" we celebrate.
Join us for new episodes on the 1st and 15th of each month as we continue sharing stories of transformation from across Mississippi. Each story reminds us that when we contribute our unique gifts, Mississippi rises together
When you need some hope and inspiration to build collaboration. Hope Mississippi is your salvation.
Soundtrack:One in four kids live in poverty. One in five are food deprived.
Soundtrack:Build collaborations and build hope with those who are struggling.
Dawn Beam:Hope Mississippi.
Dawn Beam:Hello and welcome back to the Mississippi Bar Convention in Sandestin, to the Mississippi Bar Convention in Sandestin. And today I have a dear friend, renee Porter, who is a youth court judge in our area, but just a phenomenal person.
Rene Porter:Thank you, Dawn, for letting me be here today and it's strange to say, Dawn, Thank you, Justice Beam. Judge Beam, because we didn't work together when you were on the Supreme Court, but worked together certainly when you were a chancery judge, Judge Beam, but most of all a friend, as you say.
Rene Porter:Well, you know, friends are a gift from the Lord. The Bible says that and I truly believe that about you. Now we met in law school. Just tell me a little bit about yourself.
Rene Porter:Did you grow up in Summerall?
Rene Porter:I lived in Summerall when it was very small, like first grade, but I grew up in Columbia, marion County. I was born in Germany because my dad was taking a little stint in the army, came back and was raised in Marion County. I had a lot of Lamar County ties so I went to Lamar County every Sunday to eat Sunday lunch Ways, for the most part in Marion County. I went to University of Southern Mississippi Southern Miss, to the top for my undergrad and then went to law school where I met you. I married my high school sweetheart and we came back to Columbia and opened up a law firm in a 1935 gas station and God was so good to us and has been so good to us and blessed us and blessed me and my practice kind of developed to be in one of family law. I practiced family law and enjoyed that for many years and still do to a small extent, but for the most part.
Rene Porter:Now I'm in the youth court. In 2020, I was appointed as guardian ad litem in Marion County and that is a position that I took very seriously and I was able to serve there until I was appointed as youth court judge in 2021. While I was in Garden and Lime. That's where you and I really began to work on problems and you may want to address some of those problems, and now, as youth court judge, I continue to try to work on problems, but I'm also hopefully I'm part of the solution and I just thank God for letting me work in this area and I just thank God for letting me work in this area.
James L. Henley, Jr.:Well, you know, I reflect back to those early days when I was a chancery judge. We saw that we were having some challenges in Marion County. Can you just walk us through some of that and how God issues churches and people thinking outside the box to really change the trajectory of children in Marion County?
Hill Kane:Well, in Marion County we were kind of wakened to that by shock. We had three deaths that were not children in custody, not children in custody. But when we went back and looked, maybe there are children that should have been in custody. There were calls that were missed, calls that were not followed up on, and so under your leadership, judge Beam, we immediately began a practice I'm going to call it a practice which we still do to this day where we evaluate as a court, every call that comes into the hotline. We say, okay, should this? You know? Should we do something? Should we not do something? We also started encouraging people to call into the hotline.
Hill Kane:And what we found out? We had missed some kids. We had missed some kids and so we began to look into things and before long we knew we had about 350 kids, children in custody. Now I'm proud to say that now we have we have around 20 in Marion County in custody. That is wonderful. Now that is through the implementation of of practices and procedures that keep children out of custody, that is through the implementation of a lot of safety plans and prevention plans, but it's also through us working with those over 350 children in custody, working those cases, to get those cases resolved, either through reunification, which is always our goal, and I'm so proud of some of our families that have reunified and families that have had problems and they've worked through those problems but then we have situations where reunification is not possible. So we have adoptions and I can see some of those kids. I get graduation invitations from some of those kids and it just makes me tear up. So a lot of good come out of those 350 kids being in custody.
Rene Porter:We have a system in place to protect children, and when the system is broken and that's what we found out several years ago when we had those three deaths is people were not following up with tips, with calls from teachers about possible neglect or abuse. And so, when we let problems fester, children suffer even more and parents spiral even further downward. And so it's important for those listening out there that if you see something, say something.
Rene Porter:It's very important. You know we say sometimes well, I'm not, that's not on me to do. Basically, if you look at the law, almost everybody's a mandatory reporter. But it doesn't matter about the law. If you see something wrong, call it in, call it to the hotline. Now I'll be honest with you. It may take you. It's not going to be a very quick. You're not going to be able to call and say I see this child, this child's in danger. They're going to ask you a lot of questions. Just be patient. It'll get through quicker than you think and it can be.
Rene Porter:It can still be confidential. There's always a push to make it non-confidential. I certainly believe it needs to be confidential because I believe the most important thing we can do is protect children and if one child dies because of somebody being afraid to call something in, because of not being confidential, then we failed. So please call it in. All of our teachers, law enforcement, our daycare workers, things that y'all see, please know that in Marion County those are all looked at. We take them seriously. That doesn't mean that we maybe take the action that you think we should take, but we do take it seriously. We do look into it.
Dawn Beam:So many of our reports deal with neglect and not actual physical abuse. I think sometimes people think, oh well, they don't have a bruise, they don't have broken bones, but that saying, sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me. There's a lot of neglect that goes on out there, where their children are not fed properly, children are not adequately cared for, and that can be just as traumatic and just as difficult for the child.
Rene Porter:Well, as we saw in those three cases that we had with deaths, when you have got not proper sleep situations and you lose a child because of a sleep situation, and that's when you have too many people in the house and folks, it's not a shame to be poor. It's not a shame to be unable to afford housing. It is a shame to not have your child where their child can receive safe sleep. We can take care of buying beds, we can take care of getting housing. We can take care of those things. Put it on us, let us take care of it, but we can't take care of a dead child.
Dawn Beam:Let's talk about the folks that stepped up in Marion County because nobody can do it alone. I say God doesn't call everybody to be a foster parent, but he calls everybody to do something. Tell how the churches and the community rallied. You are so right.
Rene Porter:Judge. First of all, you created a collaboration, a community, a coalition, and we operated under that for a long time. Basically, covid kind of took a little bit of the sting off that, but we operated under that and we still operate under that. You know, we have so many churches it's hard to even call out one, but we have so many churches and people that just stepped up and to this day, if I need something, I needed something.
Rene Porter:Last week at a ballgame I saw a gentleman that I looked at a house last week that needs some work and I went talking with the lady. She says well, I said where do you go to church? She told me the name of her church and I knew the gentleman who went to that church. I saw him at the ballgame. I said I got to talk to you about something. I said I need your men's group. Oh, we'll be glad to do that. We're looking for projects and that's the way I'm always received when I ask anything. Occasionally they'll say, well, I don't know if I can do that, but call so-and-so. I have never had a no. I'm so thankful to God's people, god's people for doing that.
Dawn Beam:This is Hope, mississippi, but the idea that tomorrow can be better than today and you can make it. So. When we empower people, they get hope, but we also experience hope when we help give and be a part of that. So one last statement or challenge to the folks that are listening, about how they can provide that hope.
Rene Porter:I think, how you can provide that hope. Number one if you see something's wrong, you think it's wrong, call it in, Let somebody know. And number two just be ready. God's going to give you that opportunity and that chance to provide hope. And when we ask, be ready, Just tell somebody. Look, I want to be involved, I want to help. I will put you in the back of my mind and put you on a list and I'll be calling you Absolutely and I'll be calling you Absolutely.
Dawn Beam:Thank you so much, renee, for joining me and thanks for your friendship.
Rene Porter:Thank you, Dawn.
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Hill Kane:Good afternoon everybody. This is Hill Cain from the Mississippi State Bar Convention and I am sitting here with the incredible James. I'm not going to mess up your name because it's on your name tag wrong, so please introduce yourself.
James L. Henley, Jr.:It's James L Henley Jr.
Hill Kane:James L Henley Jr. Okay, and if you're not familiar with my voice, I am the producer of Hope Mississippi and I sent the beams out for a little breaky, so I have the honor and pleasure of interviewing James Henley, so welcome.
James L. Henley, Jr.:Thank you.
Hill Kane:We're going to chat for about 10 minutes and I want you to tell me what you just kind of told me in the hallway about your summer program and how that got started.
James L. Henley, Jr.:I'm a lawyer, but I'm also a pastor, bivocational past 20 years. We run two programs. We run a summer program and a spring break program from 730 in the morning to 530 in the evening. We take the first 45 families and we usually are single mothers with two or three kids and we literally give them the environment of a camp that they pay for. We go on field trips, we do an educational component in the mornings. We have career week. We teach them about finances, we'll take them to museums, we'll have doctors, lawyers, different people come in to expose them to other fields and opportunities that they're unaware of.
James L. Henley, Jr.:We're in inner city Jackson. We bought a former YMCA, 27.3 acres in the middle of Jackson, that had been abandoned 25 years ago. So 20 years ago when we bought it, we came into a neighborhood where there are literally 2,400 apartment units within a two mile radius of us. A lot of single parents with kids there. One day, my wife and I, after a year or two, we saw some kids just hanging out during spring break and they looked to be about six or seven, and we noticed they were there all day, and so we did an investigation because these parents were working, they had nobody to keep their kids. And we said well, we'll figure something out. And literally that's how we got started.
Hill Kane:That's amazing. So you saw a need and then you created a program around that need. How many years ago was that?
James L. Henley, Jr.:18 years ago.
Hill Kane:Wow. So for 18 years you have been providing this spring and summer program for these kids.
James L. Henley, Jr.:Yes, and we never know who the kids are going to be, and that's the thing. We accept any kid. So let's say you had a challenged child. We'd find a teacher who deals with challenged children. That's amazing. We've never turned the kid away because of an issue.
Hill Kane:I love that. Do you have any fun stories about kids that kind of came through your program and maybe you're still in touch with, or you have a success story you could share with us?
James L. Henley, Jr.:This may be one of the better. We've got a lot of good stories, but one of the stories is we also do a big back-to-school festival where we'll have rock climbing. We'll have everything, give out school supplies. Last year one of our members decided she was going to go to Walmart and ask for donations, which we never have sort of done. She shows up at the Walmart out on County Line Road. She's asking for donations. She's gone two or three times and she said they turned her away. She shows up the fourth time. They've gotten the newest system manager at the store.
James L. Henley, Jr.:He hears them say the name Fresh Start and she said Fresh Start. He says hold up, hold up, she's from Fresh Start. She says yeah. She says it's a Fresh Start Christian church on Manhattan where they let us come play basketball when I was a kid every Friday night. So he talked and he said no, y'all heard me talk about when I was growing up. We didn't have anything to do, but we could go to this church on Friday nights. They'd give us pizza, they'd let us play basketball, they'd make us sit and listen to them for 20 minutes, but then they'd let us play basketball again. He says that's the church. He literally gave us 300 hot dogs, 300 hamburgers, 300 sets of buns for each one of them and load up, because he said we kept him out of trouble, because he had somewhere to go on Friday nights.
Hill Kane:Absolutely Off those streets, right.
James L. Henley, Jr.:Yeah.
Hill Kane:That's incredible, amazing how God put certain things in our path and luckily you were smart enough to pick up on it and fix that need immediately in your own community.
James L. Henley, Jr.:And we have been blessed. Like I said, my wife and I are both attorneys and we're both CPAs, and so we have been blessed enough that we could well we didn't have, we could provide. You know, God gave us the resources and we used those, and over time, other people saw what we were doing and so they started just donating money because they knew we were using it for kids.
Hill Kane:I love everything about this and I am also intrigued because I'm from Texas and we do have a lot of abandoned hotels and abandoned buildings, and it's incredible that you took something that was just thrown away, basically, and made it into an incredible facility, and more people need to do that.
James L. Henley, Jr.:I've told people. I said, if you see an old warehouse, that's a gym, that's a church, that's a place kids can hang out at. But it just takes the commitment of someone willing to give their time, give them the resources, but you see the kids my funny story, the good story then, sort of not a good story.
Hill Kane:We'll take all the stories.
James L. Henley, Jr.:Had two kids who got in trouble. And so the public defender in Hines County said was there anybody who will say something nice about you? And he thought about it. They said well, you can call the guy at the church. And he said what church? They said it's called Fresh Start. And so the lawyer, who I happen to know, ray said James Henley. They said James Henley. They said yeah, that's his name, he's the pastor, he's a lawyer.
James L. Henley, Jr.:Ray started laughing. He said well, yeah, he actually is a lawyer. He said well, he'll say something nice about us. And so literally he called me. He said well, james, these two kids are here. Crime's pretty serious. But they say they actually come to the church on Friday nights. And I said I don't always remember all their names. I said can you show me their picture? So when he showed me their picture I said yeah, they're right, they do come by. They ended up both getting reduced sentences, went on probation, but literally the day one of them got out of church, he said he got out that Friday. He came to church that Sunday morning to say thank you, because he said I've probably been in worse trouble than come a Friday night. But he actually knew somebody and he said he turned his life over to Christ while he was in jail because he realized that he had gotten a reduced sentence because he used to come to the church and it made him start reading his Bible for himself.
Hill Kane:And he did it in earnest, not just to get a get out of jail ticket. Like this is very sincere.
James L. Henley, Jr.:Yes.
Hill Kane:I bet you have shown a lot of children that the faith-based and the way out of your situation is through Christ and God, not that mischief out in the streets.
James L. Henley, Jr.:It's a change of mindset, realizing that there's hope in Christ. But until somebody shows them that, explains it to them, they come there. And this is what always gets them. They come there, they play basketball, they do things. We feed them pizza, we take them on field trips, we buy them t-shirts in camp, and they figure out it doesn't cost anything. So eventually they will say why do you do this? And we'll say because we're making Christ visible to you, we're showing you the love of God, that he cares enough about you, that he started a whole program just for you because he wants you to see another way.
Hill Kane:I love that. So then they know that you believe in them Right? And then also that God believes in them, and that's really all they need to just take a slightly different path, Like a different path. I love that and you know.
Hill Kane:Dawn.
Dawn Beam:Beam. I'm sitting in for Justice Beam right now. Do you have a little message for her? Do you want to say hello?
James L. Henley, Jr.:I say hello. But I'm also excited about the fact that she's bridging over to another way of helping people see the light, to see that there's hope. Because I just know from being in front of judges they see a lot, they see a whole lot and it's a lot more than other people and they have to sort of bring it all together. But I think with the knowledge she's gained from there, she also saw the need for someone going out there and being a beam, someone being a light, a beam of light.
Hill Kane:A beam of light. I see what you did there.
Hill Kane:I see what you did there.
James L. Henley, Jr.:Yes, what she's doing is incredible and it's all about bringing hope to Mississippi as part of the Hope Rising Mississippi nonprofit, but it was absolutely generated by what she saw as a judge and as a lawyer and in the children's courts and all of the on the state Supreme Court, and this is her way of bridging and branching out, and she's had all different kinds of people on the podcast, so I want to thank you so much for being one of them.
James L. Henley, Jr.:Well, thank you.
Hill Kane:It was great getting to know you and learn about your program.
James L. Henley, Jr.:And feel free to come by any day. We're 5210 Manhattan Road, Jackson Mississippi, 39206.
Hill Kane:Do you have a website.
James L. Henley, Jr.:We do freshstartchristiancom. There we go.
Hill Kane:Thank you so much and we'll see you in the next episode.
Dawn Beam:Hello and welcome back to the Mississippi Bar Convention. I am here with Joy Phillips from Gulfport, mississippi. Welcome, joy. Thank you, judge, good to see you, great to see you. We're here, and we just heard former Governor Haley Barber talk about Katrina. That was just so inspiring, wasn't it.
Joy Phillips:Oh my gosh, it just brought back such memories. He is such a great speaker, but to listen to it just kind of brought it all back to me Absolutely.
Dawn Beam:And you know, one thing that we celebrate when we think about Katrina is we came out of that with such hope because we all came together.
Joy Phillips:I'm telling you, it really renews your faith in humanity. But Mississippians were so resilient, but we had people from all over the country well, actually internationally, but mostly across the country, the faith-based groups. I don't know what would have happened to Mississippi had we not had such support.
Joy Phillips:Tell the audience a little bit about you. You're an attorney, but about where you're from, how long you've lived there and then what you were doing at the time of Katrina.
Rene Porter:I've been practicing law since 1980. At that time was general counsel for Hancock, a bank which is now called Hancock Whitney. So in 2005, at that point I had also been elected president of the Mississippi Bar. So about a month before Katrina I had taken over as president of the Mississippi Bar. I live in Gulfport. My home is there. My company that I worked for was located there, so when Katrina came through it was life-altering. But again, I've been practicing law since 1980, both in private practice as well as in-house, with two different banks.
Dawn Beam:So you were working with a bank on the Mississippi Gulf Coast when Katrina came through and wiped everything out and the governor talked about how we quickly turned into a cash economy.
Joy Phillips:I heard George Slogel, who then was the president of Hancock I'll say Hancock, Whitney, because that's what it's known now. I had heard him say before and then right after Katrina cash is king. When you're in that kind of an economy, a disaster like that, you've got to get cash in people's hands. Governor Barber talked about the fact you can't use a credit card if you don't have phone lines, you can't pump gas if you don't have electricity, and all those things were true, and so the bank that I worked for had branches all across the Mississippi coast as well as far north as Hattiesburg, and so it was so inspiring when I think back about what the leaders of the bank I mean I'm not going to take credit for it, but they knew what needed to happen and they knew they had to get cash out so they opened up branches. This happened on Monday, and on Tuesday afternoon we had a branch open, no power. We just set up a folding table. We had most of our branches open within 48 hours with no power in most cases, some with generators. We had our folks inside and we would let one person in at a time just to try to maintain. We would find kind of the biggest person and go today you're the security guard at this branch to just let one person in at a time for safety purposes.
Joy Phillips:We knew we had to get cash to people. One of the things that we had a problem with and stop me if I'm saying too much, but you're doing great we couldn't get cash from the Federal Reserve because they couldn't get into New Orleans to get us cash, which is where they would get it. Our cash that we had had had gotten washed through in our vault. It had all kinds of chemicals and everything in it. So we managed to find again. I give our leaders credit. They went and got washers and dryers, brought them in. We had generators and we literally laundered money. That is amazing. We did, and so we had to rinse it. Then we had people iron it and bundle it back up, and we also opened an area we were working in. We opened, I guess, a little branch for first responders, so we had all the people that are down there from police, firemen, National Guard. We opened up a branch, basically with a cash box and would cash checks for them so that they had money then again, because cash was king.
Dawn Beam:You don't think about all the immediate needs when a hurricane comes through, and certainly money is necessary for everything from fresh water to gasoline to food and just the basic needs unless somebody is giving it away, and a lot of people did that during Katrina. You've served at the bank Hancock Whitney, and the governor talked about the amount of money that y'all gave out during those days. Could you tell a little bit about the investment that the bank did and how it paid off?
Joy Phillips:Well it did. We probably loaned over $5 million out and I think it was probably $400,000 or $500,000 that ended up. We didn't recover that. People didn't pay back and it could have been because they left town and really didn't know how. If you had an ID even if you didn't have an ID, if somebody knew you we would make a loan of like $200. We also, if you had an account with us and didn't have your checkbook, we would go ahead and get money out of your account. We didn't know if you had money in your account because we couldn't check the balance. We just took it word.
Joy Phillips:We lost so little money after doing that and people thanked us and because of that our company actually grew. I think it was something like 20, 25,000 new customers. Our company grew a couple billion dollars because of the goodwill. We didn't do it for that reason, but because of the goodwill that we got out of what we did. The other thing is we had people who needed to get in safe deposit boxes because that's where their IDs were, their passports were, but our buildings were damaged. Some were totally destroyed, but almost all of them were damaged to some extent. So we would have to arrange to put a hard hat on and get them in there, let them into there, but our employees were. They did it because they wanted to.
Dawn Beam:When we talk about Hope Mississippi, we talk about what Mississippi, that our biggest resources are people, and people in Mississippi work together to create positive change, and I think that's one great thing about being a resident here.
Joy Phillips:Oh, it is. I mean we had some of our employees who lost their homes, but we're still finding a way to get to work. And our company knew I know you were in there and heard Governor Barber talk about it but we were able to get gas and we told if somebody would bring a gas, can we would fill their gas up so that they could either get to work, get home, you know, do what they needed to do. So it was pretty incredible People who had pretty much lost everything were still showing up for work because that's what they wanted to do and they wanted to help other people.
Joy Phillips:Okay, I'm going to shift gears just a minute because we're here to celebrate you today. You are being recognized. We're going to the Suzy Blue Buchanan thing, but you were recognized last night for all that you have done for the Mississippi Bar and for Mississippi in general the Mississippi Bar and for Mississippi in general. You were the first female to be president of the bar and you were that in the midst of Katrina. So talk just a minute about what you did there, how we thought outside the box as lawyers.
Joy Phillips:Well, I mean, I live on the coast and I stayed in my home. I'm very fortunate, I'm probably one of the luckiest people on the coast. On the coast and I stayed in my home, I'm very fortunate, I'm probably one of the luckiest people on the coast. I still had a job. My house had damage but I could live in it. So, you know, we immediately started getting in touch with the state bar, of course, you know, and they were being contacted by other bar associations, both Mississippi lawyers, but bar associations from across the country donated money, gift cards, furniture. We actually had attorneys from Minnesota who came down and visited us and then brought furniture, but the attorneys who came and volunteered at the FEMA centers to help people, to answer questions, legal questions, we had people come from.
Joy Phillips:You know, I'll never forget I went to one of the FEMA centers and an attorney from Georgia he came to Manit. He had gone to high school but had you know they're in Biloxi, just wanted to volunteer, and he said I said so where are you staying tonight? And he said I'll find someplace. I said well, you probably won't. And I walked away and I came back and I said here's my telephone number. If you can't find a place. You're welcome to call me and you're welcome to stay at my home. And he called and I missed the call. So he called my house, talked to my husband and when I got home he and my husband were having a glass of wine in my living room.
Dawn Beam:That is a wonderful story and Joy. You and I both married up. You're married to St Frank and he is a wonderful blessing.
Dawn Beam:He is.
Dawn Beam:Thank you for joining me and whoop, whoop, we celebrate the great things that have happened in Mississippi, but I can't wait to see how this next generation moves us forward.
Joy Phillips:I agree, I agree. Thank you so much for inviting me to be on this. You know I'm a big fan of yours. Thank you, thank you.
Dawn Beam:Thank you when you need some hope and inspiration To build collaboration. Hope Mississippi is your salvation. Hope Mississippi.